May I join?

*slaps face* and I put you under the bad ones... XD
now THIS is my kind of club! I'll gladly join... but not now... too many clubs XD

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I HAVE to join!

Proof that anti clubs are akin to flaming: members of Kill Sally Club have been flaming the Sally fan clubs a lot recently. Sad, isn't it?

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Whoo! Weird thing, never thought I'd find a club like this I don't hate any Sonic characters (OMG o.o) and have only joined hate anti clubs, may I join? ^-^ *Watches the club*

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Meh, I think this club has a good point, but I guess the reason anti-clubs are made is to find others who share the same opinion. Seeing as I made an anti-TailsxFiona club, and have joined a few anti-clubs I won't be able to come in. Meh, doesn't matter

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I support this club because if this flame and non-flaming things keep going on, it might start some sort of private war.

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Meanwhile, nobody cares about this club anymore....

Okay. You guys made good points but can you please leave the club alone and deal with your arguments elsewhere? If you don't want to join, LEAVE IT ALONE AND DON'T FLAME!!!! If you want to join, watch the club. Simple.

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I wouldn't call myself a neutral person really. I have strong opinions on many subjecs, but when it comes to which cartoon characters are "cool" and which ones "suck", I consider myself too old to really argue about it. I'm sorry, but I just want to check something... so, you're 13. Look, you seem like a smart person, so I'd be a bit surprised if you'd still hated Chris- at least in the same way- when you're 30, u know what I'm saying? You actually seem quite mature for your age.

But to be truly neutral- that's something a few people can say about themselves. Nothing should make a dedicated buddhist monk angry- nothing. You can capture him and torture him, but he won't get mad at you. He'll just feel sorry for you because you're accumulating bad karma. And he believes his suffering is caused by something bad he did in his previous lives.

But seriously, cartoon characters are created for our entertainment. What did you mean by "taking their love too far"? I don't see any problem about loving something unless it makes you hate something else because of you love. But hate is the real problem in those cases as well. Hatred is a negative emotion- you can argue about this, but I'm not in a philosophical mood now.

You also said that you draw the line of expressing your hate to killing a character in your pictures. You know, many people, especially the younger fans feel bad enough seeing their favourites humiliated. By telling a person you hate something/someone they love could be a lot worse than telling you hate the person.
If I hated- say- Star Wars (I don't, but if), and I'd walk past a movie theater with my friends and saw a guy dressed up as Chewbacca or Yoda, I wouldn't make fun of him. If I told my friends Star Wars is crap and the guy in the suit is a pathetic loser, so that the guy could hear me, I would be a jerk! I would say to my friends and to my friends only: "Hey, did you see that Star Wars fan? I think it's silly to dress up like that." After we walked past the theater.

Well, thanks for sharing you opinions with me. Let's all try to get along here.

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While you put up a good point, again, people who hate characters or even couples are not immature. It all comes down to both neutrality and preference: If you're neutral, you're likely to support a club like this and you mostly feel neutral on things you dislike and like. If you're opinionated, it's unlikely you will and you hate some things about stuff and you love others. Hating something that is imaginary is not a bad thing, after all, opinionated people do...

The problem is when people take their love or hate too far, and you're right there. This tends to be used with hate more, but goes for both. A friend of mine had a problem with someone who loved Rouge too much since my friend dislikes her and hated Sally (for reasons that don't exist) and again she flamed my friend. I also think killing a character in drawings is stupid because it is unimaginative, humiliating a character is better.

Also hating characters for reasons that are absolutely stupid pisses me off. This usually happens with Sally because many of the people are just angry at her for disrupting Sonamy when SONIC AND AMY ARE DIFFERENT IN ARCHIE. I could name a few characters that are hated because they disrupt the 'dream pairing' of a show, especially female intelligent ones such as Kikyo in Inuyasha. Many Sally haters don't even read Archie, they just go by what the ringleaders say about her.

Saying that you should hate the creators instead of the characters is a bit stupid in my opinion. It's like saying 'love the creators instead of loving the character', again, I don't like Naoto Oshima, I like Tails. I hate Chris because he is a nasty, annoying, untrue to the games jerk in my opinion and I believe he is uneeded after watching all 52 episodes of that horrible cartoon.

My point is, hating a character is not stupid or lame or 'sad', it's opinion, and people usually have different levels of tolerance and neutrality. Just because you are neutral on things doesn't mean your opinion is any better, it's only better compared to the people who use their hate to pick on others.

What kind of people feel themselves better when expressing their hatred towards fictional characters, or better yet, fictional character couples? I'll tell you- Immature people.

I understand that cartoon and game characters can be annoying, but you shouldn't hate people who like them. Hate Sega or whoever created them if you have to hate something, but not other fans or the characters themselves- that's just sad in my opinion.

Let's talk about the characters then, shall we? Like Amy, for example. Clearly Sega has intentionally made her a bit annoying- because it's funnier that way. She's Sonic obsessed.
This doesn't bother me. What bothers me though is that in Sonic Battle Amy tries to lose weight by training like crazy and forcing Cream to train with her too. She's 12 and already skinny! This worries me a bit.
And later in the story, Emerl asks Cream why Amy wants to lose weight, and Cream tells him that Amy thinks Sonic will like her more when she's skinnier. Emerl doesn't understand this, and quite frankly I'm not sure if I understand it either. Kids might get wrong ideas from this game. But I don't blame Amy- she apparently believes skinny women are sexy. And no wonder; most of the fashion models are sickly skinny with hips like 13-year old boys, after all.

Sega should have told Amy that it has been proven scientifically that most men prefer curvy women (because they are more fertile and thus more likely to get pregnant and produce offsprings for them) and that fashion designers don't really appreciate the classic female figure, because they are supposedly mostly gay. (Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against gay fashion designers, I'm just saying I like womanly women) Amy, if you're too skinny, Sonic will think you're sick and won't have babies with you!

Sorry, this is one for the forums really... But back to the point. There's no reason for me to hate Amy for telling little girls to get anorectic so boys would like them. Maybe sega should have added a scene where someone tells Amy she's too skinny... I dunno.

And Rouge... Oh, long message... hmm. Well, let's just say that if you have a problem with Rouge's appearance, your real problem just might be looking at you from the mirror. Sorry, if that sounded a bit rude. I'm not Dr. Phil... Was that too offtopic?

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And as for bashing... flaming and bashing a character is fine in my opinion as long as you don't draw it being killed, but again, people will... showing the imperfections of a character you hate or dislike is central to hating it in my opinion. Being like sonicanime.net and going completely Nazi when someone says a character sucks is ridiculous.

I don't really see the point of this club... after all, some people will always hate some parts of Sonic but some people won't and you obviously belong to the neutral group... but some people need something to hate because they have more opinions on things than say the members of this club. The only stupidity is when people try to say their opinion about anti is better than pro, pro is better than anti, etc. I myself am a Chris hater and I'd be obliglied to join that anti club. Another stupid thing of anti is when people hate a character such as Sally Acorn before even knowing her... that is the real ignorance.

Hmmm i ecctaly want to join this club but since i`m an oner of a Anti-club i cant join i do think people have the right to make a Anti-club to make a statement..but i dont like realy stupid hate clubs like a club like Kill sally with pictures of Sally being killed ect ect and some of them cal Sally Fans losers thats just mean and cruel

i hope i didnt made any Rouge fans feel ashamed i`m fans with a buch anyways grow club grow!

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=SBG6 - Basically, we are against all anti Sonic clubs. It's okay that you don't like Sally. We're not saying that it is NOT okay to hate characters. The main idea of this club is to just be against the bashing of the characters and the couples.

You are welcome to join. We just added you in. Just be sure to watch the club for updates.

are you against the hate sally club?

i love the rest of the characters but not sally,
she is one of them characters that bug me.

hope you don't hold that against me.

other than that can i join.

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So with you on this.
Creating a hate club is pretty pointless.

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What do you mean by extremely unfair? This is not about being unfair, the anti-clubs are the ones that are being unfair. I mean think about it, this isn't a club about bashing the anti-clubs, it's about being proud of what you love without being ashamed. Those anti-clubs have made people feel ashamed.

This is basically an all pro-Sonic characters/couples club. I should have given it another name, though instead of anti-anti....

You're right though, people do need to keep their opinions to themselves. BUT they shouldn't tell the whole world that they hate something and be obsessed about bashing it. It's pointless.

I too believe in equality. I do not wish to argue with you.

An anticlub for anticlubs? Uhh...

I find what your club stands for extremely unfair, as I am a firm believer of equality. I don't like anticlubs myself--But it's their opinion. I find it unfair that a person can create a fanclub for people to gather and celebrate what they love, yet the people who are opposed are simply ment to keep their opinions to themself like it's an ugly sin. It should be both or neither, and both parties should simply avoid each other's clubs if it bothers them that much.

So, having said that, does this make me a hypocrit? Perhaps. But what I've said should give a little food for thought.

Yeah...first comment.